For the first time in nearly 2 decades, the Survivor mutiny is BACK! Carter and Devin were both given the opportunity to switch tribes after visiting the opposing camp for a day, but did they both make the right decisions? Plus, what do we make of Rob's surprise exit?!

We're also delving into The Traitors' murder in plain sight! Who caught the apple?!

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Survivor 51 is only 2 episodes in, but we already have a couple of major injuries and someone trying to vote themselves out?! Plus, after 87 days, Big Brother 28 has finally come to an end. After one last shocking betrayal, did the jury pick a deserving winner?

Joining us to chat about it all is our friend Jenna Quirk!

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Survivor's open era has officially begun! We loved the premiere, but what will "permanent uncertainty" bring for the rest of the season? Plus, which of the final 3 will win BB28 and will Katie be able to survive as a newly-minted traitor on The Traitors: New Blood?

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