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It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast

It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast

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Welcome to The Overlap's football history podcast, It Was What It Was.


Each week Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper will be talking about the key episodes in football history that have shaped the footballing world.


The show will be discussing the best stories from football's past, giving insights to the personalities involved. the tales from behind the scenes and the impact they left.


Join us at Football University!


If you enjoy the podcast please hit subscribe to never miss an episode.

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  • Luis Figo's Shock Transfer: From Barcelona to Real Madrid | Part One
    Jan 27 2026

    Welcome back to It Was What it Was, the football history podcast. Co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper delve into one of the most shocking football transfers of all time - Luis Figo's move from Barcelona to Real Madrid. They discuss the immense impact of this transfer on both clubs, the controversy surrounding it, and how it altered the landscape of football transfers forever. Featuring insights about the political machinations in both clubs, the role of agents, and the seismic shift this transfer created in the football world, this episode brings to life the dramatic story behind the headlines. Tune in for part one of this fascinating two-part series!


    00:00 Quote to open the episode

    05:53 Figo's Role and Style of Play

    09:16 The Political and Historical Context

    17:03 The Presidential Election and Florentino Perez

    26:39 Florentino Perez's Strategy

    30:44 The Complacency at Barcelona

    31:23 Florentino Perez's Scramble for Figo

    32:20 The Role of José Veiga

    36:11 The Pre-Contract and Its Implications

    48:06 The Election and the Leak

    52:54 The Fallout and Future Implications

    53:20 Exciting News: Launching a Patreon


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    55 Min.
  • The American Dream: Pelé, Cosmos + Rise & Fall of NASL | Part Four
    Jan 20 2026

    Welcome back to It Was What it Was, the football history podcast. In the final episode of our four-part special on the NASL, co-hosts Rob Draper and Jonathan Wilson delve into the decline and eventual collapse of the league. From financial instability, over-expansion, and missed opportunities, to the controversial business decisions and the rise of indoor soccer. This episode covers the myriad of factors that led to the NASL's downfall. Explore the final turbulent years, the impact on US Soccer, and the lessons learned from one of football's most intriguing leagues.


    00:00 Introduction to the NASL and Its Peak

    02:08 The Decline Begins: Post-Pele Era

    05:36 Celebrity Owners and Financial Woes

    09:01 The Cosmos' Dominance and League Format Issues

    19:21 Franchise Movements and Player Strikes

    29:03 The Beginning of the End: Financial Losses and Decline

    36:13 Ownership Disputes and Relocations

    37:53 Franchise Failures and Player Movements

    43:34 NASL's Struggles and FIFA's Ultimatum

    44:28 The Final Collapse of NASL

    55:18 Failed Experiments and Indoor Soccer

    01:01:49 The End of NASL and Its Legacy

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    1 Std. und 13 Min.
  • The American Dream: Pelé, Cosmos + Rise & Fall of NASL | Part Three
    Jan 13 2026

    Welcome to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast. In this third episode of our four-part special on the North American Soccer League (NASL), co-hosts Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper dive deep into the transformation kicked off by the arrival of legendary soccer star Pele. We go on an epic journey of the NASL, from shambolic beginnings to becoming one of the most iconic and influential leagues in world football, even if just for a short while. We explore how the NASL went from drawing crowds, to attracting the highest-paid player in the world, and the ensuing excitement and challenges that followed. Featuring the key moments, star players, innovative marketing strategies, and the initial signs of financial instability, this episode captures the league at its highest just before its inevitable decline. Don't miss this fascinating look at the peaks of NASL's history and what ultimately led the league to stumble. Tune in next week for the final episode of this four-part series.


    02:33 The Growth of Soccer in American Schools and Colleges

    03:32 Financial Struggles and the Arrival of Pele

    13:54 Innovative Rule Changes and Attendance Issues

    18:11 The Role of Media and Celebrity Influence

    23:55 The NASL's Expansion and Financial Commitments

    31:20 The Pursuit of Soccer Superstars

    33:01 Pele's Impact on American Soccer

    34:56 The Rise of NASL Franchises

    36:59 Challenges and Financial Struggles

    39:11 Marketing Gimmicks and Celebrity Players

    55:03 The Golden Year of 1977

    01:04:36 Pele's Farewell and Future Uncertainties

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    1 Std. und 6 Min.
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