Two friends. Two very different journeys. One Savior.

In this deeply personal episode, RJ and Andy share the honest stories of how they came to be saved by Jesus Christ. They talk openly about divorce, grief, loss, prayer, surrender, family, service, and the moments that made faith real and personal.

This is not a polished sermon, and neither man claims to have everything figured out. It is a raw conversation about knowing about Jesus versus truly developing a relationship with Him—and what it looks like to live out that faith through forgiveness, conviction, purpose, and helping others.

Andy shares how one of the lowest points in his life led him to stop trying to carry everything alone. RJ shares how losing his brother and receiving a life-changing call from a veteran in crisis helped reveal both his faith and his purpose to serve.

They also discuss fatherhood, doubt, prayer, church, sharing your testimony, guarding the people and influences around you, and the question every listener must eventually answer:

What is it going to take for you to get there?

⚠️ This episode includes conversations about suicide, addiction, grief, and loss. If you or someone you know is struggling, call or text 988. Veterans may call 988 and press 1 or text 838255.

Two different paths. One Savior.