Join Justin for a special episode of Father Figures as we head towards Father's Day & R U OK day.
He's joined by David Drummond.

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In this season finale of Father Figures, Justin and Heath reflect on what makes change worthwhile as parents navigating the constant evolution of family life. From discovering new levels of exhaustion to learning when to hold on and when to let go, they explore the delicate balance between providing for our families and finding moments of peace for ourselves.

The conversation meanders through childhood concert memories (Amy Grant and Elton John, anyone?), the challenge of self-care when you're always "on," and how understanding our kids' neurodiversity helped them understand themselves better. They discuss the pressure of following up "perfect days" with ordinary Tuesdays, the wisdom of sitting still, and why becoming a "non-anxious presence" might be the most important gift we can give our children.

With their signature mix of depth and lightheartedness, Justin and Heath wrap up the season by examining what it means to mature continuously as fathers—learning to stop trying to fix everything, embracing boredom as a form of peace, and discovering that wherever you go, there you are.

Perfect for parents in the thick of it who need permission to stop, breathe, and maybe watch just thirty minutes of TV without guilt.

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In this special episode of Father Figures, Justin sits down with his sons Noah (19), Luca (17), Ari (12), and Quinn (9) for an honest conversation about growing up male. Using Steve Biddulph's "Raising Boys" framework as a starting point, they discuss the three key developmental stages boys go through and explore questions about male role models, emotional intelligence, and what it's really like being raised in their household.From wrestling on the floor to navigating feelings, from memorable teachers to trusted mentors, the boys share their perspectives on everything from boundary-setting to whether their dad has done a "pretty awesome job" (spoiler: they're diplomatic). It's candid, funny, and full of the kind of authentic family dynamics you don't usually hear on podcasts—including Luca's light sensitivity struggles, AJ's take on affectionate vs. mean jokes between brothers, and Quinn's very strategic answer about his favourite parent.

Whether you're raising boys yourself or just curious about what father-son relationships look like in real time, this episode offers rare insight into how connection, correction, and just showing up shapes the next generation of men.

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