What if the key to overcoming life’s toughest challenges is to run straight into them?

In this episode of Catch As Catch Can, George Tinsley Sr. sits down with Marques Ogden, former NFL player turned keynote speaker and entrepreneur, to share a powerful story of resilience, reinvention, and facing adversity head-on.

After experiencing a career-ending setback and losing nearly $3 million in a failed business venture, Marques made the decision to rebuild his life from the ground up. He introduces the concept of “moving like a bison”—choosing to confront challenges directly instead of avoiding them—and explains how that mindset can turn obstacles into opportunities.

This conversation is a powerful reminder that growth happens when you stop running from the storm and start moving through it with purpose.

What if the key to building a lasting legacy starts with truly knowing who you are?

In this episode of Catch As Catch Can, George Tinsley Sr. sits down with Carol J. Alexander, visionary artist and cultural architect, to explore how identity is shaped through life’s challenges—and how those challenges can become the foundation for purpose.

From leading major cultural projects like the National Museum of Liberia to transforming communities through storytelling, Carol shares how she has turned obstacles into opportunities to create meaningful, lasting impact. Her journey highlights the power of self-awareness, resilience, and staying grounded in purpose, even in the face of adversity.

This conversation is a powerful reminder that when you understand who you are, you can build something that outlives you.

What separates those who keep going from those who give up?

In this episode of Catch As Catch Can, George Tinsley Sr. sits down with Phebe Trotman, a multi-Hall of Fame athlete, award-winning entrepreneur, and author of Never Quit on a Bad Day®, to explore the mindset required to push through life’s toughest moments.

From championship athletics to business success, Phebe shares how discipline, resilience, and belief are built through adversity—and how those same qualities can turn setbacks into opportunities for growth. Drawing from her journey as a six-time national champion and global leader, she breaks down what it takes to stay focused, confident, and committed even when things don’t go as planned.

This episode is a powerful reminder that one bad day should never define your path forward.