This is a bonus episode of Brewer to Brewer recorded during the 2026 Craft Brewers Conference. Listen as Ben Edmunds of Breakside Brewery interviews Jake Gardner of Westbound and Down.

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John I. Haas
When every pound of hops matters, brewers need products that work harder in the brewhouse. LupoMAX® was engineered to deliver concentrated lupulin, intense aroma expression, and reduced process loss, helping breweries improve yields while maintaining true-to-type hop character. Available in standout varieties like Citra®, Mosaic®, Krush®, and more, LupoMAX gives brewers a smarter path to bold flavor and operational efficiency. Talk with your Haas Sales Representative or visit lupohops.com for details.

Sennos
Sennos just changed the fermentation intelligence game—again. Their new Intelligent Fusion Module packs five high-precision sensors—pH, pressure, temperature, dissolved oxygen, and conductivity—into a single compact module. One tank port and complete fermentation visibility. And, it's built to evolve. New sensing capabilities will be added over time, so your SennosM3 gets smarter as brewing science advances. Stop patching together multiple devices. Invest in an intelligence platform built for what's next. Visit sennos.com

Stomp Stickers
If you’ve been loyal to your current printer for years, we get it. Switching feels risky. That’s why StompStickers.com keeps it simple: low minimums for an easy test run, fast print times so you’re never stuck waiting, and a 100% satisfaction guarantee on every order. Thousands of brewers have already trusted them for over 30 years, and now you can try them for less. Head to StompStickers.com and use code TRY15 for 15% off your order.

Ollie
You’re paying too much to process your invoices. Look, it’s not your fault. It’s just because you’re not using Pay Smart yet.

Most breweries are stuck with platforms designed for general small businesses, not the craft industry. That’s why Pay Smart was built. It’s the new payments solution that is fully integrated into leading brewery software like Ekos and Ollie. That means less time chasing payments, fewer workarounds, and more money saved. Want to see how much you can save?Head over to save.withPaySmart.com to learn more and claim an incredible launch offer.

All About Beer
At All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry.

• Host: Ben Edmunds
• Guest: Jake Gardner
• Sponsor: Ollie, Stomp Stickers, Keg Logistics, RahrBSG
• Tags: Brewing, Oregon, Hops, Business
• Photo Credit: John Holl

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Music: Hip Hop Intro 06 by TaigaSoundProd
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License (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-license
Artist website: https://linktr.ee/taigasoundprod

Sean Buchan of Cerebral Brewing Co. interviews Shaun Kalis of Ruse Brewing.

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RahrBSG
This German-flavored break is brought to you by Weyermann® Specialty Malts—crafted in Bamberg, Germany and trusted by brewers worldwide for depth, color, and flavor. With a portfolio of over 90 malts, Weyermann® provides the tools to build anything from crisp pilsners with Pilsner Malt to rich Märzens layered with Munich and Vienna. Even complex dark beers using Caramunich and Special W. Whether you’re refining classic European styles or pushing modern recipes, order Weyermann® from RahrBSG.

Keg Logistics
As an industry-leading keg management partner, Keg Logistics delivers premium stainless-steel kegs with the flexibility you truly need.

Whether you're kegging your first batch or scaling your distribution, choose the program that fits: rent-to-own, flexible term leasing, or pay-per-fill. Get top-quality kegs without massive upfront costs, and terms that grow with you. Thousands of brewers, cider makers, and wineries trust Keg Logistics to keep production flowing. Head to keglogistics.com/allaboutbeer for your custom quote. Keg Logistics – Your Kegs. Your Choice.

Stomp Stickers
If you’ve been loyal to your current printer for years, we get it. Switching feels risky. That’s why StompStickers.com keeps it simple: low minimums for an easy test run, fast print times so you’re never stuck waiting, and a 100% satisfaction guarantee on every order. Thousands of brewers have already trusted them for over 30 years, and now you can try them for less. Head to StompStickers.com and use code TRY15 for 15% off your order.

Ollie
You’re paying too much to process your invoices. Look, it’s not your fault. It’s just because you’re not using Pay Smart yet.

Most breweries are stuck with platforms designed for general small businesses, not the craft industry. That’s why Pay Smart was built. It’s the new payments solution that is fully integrated into leading brewery software like Ekos and Ollie. That means less time chasing payments, fewer workarounds, and more money saved. Want to see how much you can save?Head over to save.withPaySmart.com to learn more and claim an incredible launch offer.

All About Beer
At All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry.

• Host: Sean Buchan
• Guest: Shaun Kalis
• Sponsor: Ollie, Stomp Stickers, Keg Logistics, RahrBSG
• Tags: Brewing, Oregon, Inspiration, Pizza, Hops
• Photo Credits: Shaun Kalis and Sean Buchan

The following music was used for this media project:
Music: Hip Hop Intro 06 by TaigaSoundProd
Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/9533-hip-hop-intro-06
License (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-license
Artist website: https://linktr.ee/taigasoundprod

On this episode, you'll hear the remarkable story of Bass Pale Ale. This story begins at the dawn of the industrial age, and charts Bass’s rise as one of the first global brewing brands. Over the course of two centuries, its pale ales evolved to meet the times, and today we know Bass as one of Britain’s classic cask ales—a beer enjoying a current renaissance among the country’s pubs.

In many ways, in telling the story of Bass, we’re recounting the history of brewing in Britain over the past two centuries: its technological and industrial rise, the collapse that befell the giants over the past generation, and, perhaps, an encouraging revival.

You'll hear from Harry White, who started at Bass in the research and development department in 1977. He would become Director of Quality Assurance in 1989, and stayed with the company until 2007. Today he is the chairman of the National Brewery Heritage Trust in Burton Upon Trent. You'll also hear from Pete Brown, one of the most celebrated beer writers in the world and the author of over a dozen books, including his most recent, Tasting Notes – The Art and Science of Pairing Beer and Music.

It’s an amazing brewery and an amazing story, all befitting one of the world’s most iconic beers.

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RahrBSG
This episode of the One Iconic Beer podcast is supported by RahrBSG – trusted supplier to brewers, distillers, and beverage makers across North America. From the barley field to your brewhouse, we’re proud to support the people behind great beer with the ingredients, expertise, and service they depend on. Whether you’re brewing the next great American Double IPA or crafting an award-winning continental lager, RahrbSG provides the industry’s finest quality, selection, and support. Behind every great – or even iconic – pint, there is a partner who knows what it takes to make it happen. RahrBSG is proud to keep the beer flowing with you.

Escarpment Labs
Tired of inconsistent fermentations and off-flavors in your beer? It’s time to strike back with Yeast Lightning Nutrient from Escarpment Labs. Unlike generic nutrients, Yeast Lightning is a balanced blend containing bioavailable zinc, magnesium, and B vitamins designed specifically for beer yeast. It’s been proven to shorten fermentation times and improve final beer flavor. Plus, it helps you get more generations out of your yeast, saving you money on every batch. Whether it's a dry-hopped IPA or a crisp lager, give your yeast the fuel they actually need. Order your first pack today by emailing sales@escarpmentlabs.com. Mention the All About Beer podcast to get free shipping on your first order.

• Host: Jeff Alworth
• Guests: Harry White, Pete Brown
• Sponsor: Escarpment Labratories, RahrBSG, All About Beer
• Tags: Bass Ale
• Logo Design: Jeff Quinn

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Lounge R&B Piano
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