Elise has survived her Nike Melbourne Marathon commentary debut. Alice is recording from the floor of her New York apartment, where one working power point is keeping both the podcast and the toaster in business. There’s a bit to catch up on.

We go behind the scenes of the Melbourne broadcast, from producers talking in your ear while you're mid-sentence, to trying to last six hours on one banana. There’s journal chat with Kipchoge and Mona, gripping races, and a late-night encounter with Sinead Diver that put an end to Elise’s plans for a responsible exit. Meanwhile, Alice’s sister makes her marathon debut – but not before strapping a fellow runner’s ankle in the start corral.

Over in New York, Alice is leading Pilates on the big stage with Lululemon, escaping to the woods for some R&R and gearing up for New York Marathon week. We talk through some names to watch, including Australia’s national record holder in the marathon, Haftu Strintzos!

We also celebrate Izzi Batt-Doyle’s breakthrough marathon in Chicago, and hear how a few chardonnays with her mum became a celebration by proxy.

This week’s recommendations:

• Elise: Race Around the World on ABC
• Alice: Drunk Mums at a Sunday BBQ

Take what you need from this episode with EB & AB, and go forth like a pigeon rising from a dumpster fire.

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Intro/outro music by Dan Beacom

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