Interview with Carl Vonderau – S. 12, Ep. 10

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Interview with Carl Vonderau – S. 12, Ep. 10

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This episode of the Crime Cafe features my interview with international banking expert and crime fiction writer Carl Vonderau. You can access a copy of the transcript here. Debbi (00:54): Hi everyone. My guest today had a career in international banking before turning to crime writing. He’s also interviewed crime— Carl (01:03): Why wouldn’t you? Debbi (01:08): One naturally leads to the other. Carl (01:11): Yeah. Yeah. Debbi (01:12): Certainly. He’s also interviewed true crime authors to explore the effects of crime on the lives who may be tangential to that of the crime itself. I believe it was “behind every crime, there’s a family.” Carl (01:29): Yes, that’s right. That’s sort of my motto when I write. Debbi (01:33): I like that a lot. His interviews appear on a show called Person of Interest, part of the Authors on the Air Network. And he lives in one of my favorite cities, San Francisco. Carl (01:46): No, San Diego. San Diego. Debbi (01:48): Oh, you’re in San Diego because San Francisco was what was in your bio. Carl (01:52): Really? Really? Debbi (01:54): Really. Carl (01:55): Oh, I got to fix that. Debbi (01:55): Oh my God. Good heavens. So much for my questions about San Francisco. Well, San Diego is an awesome city, I have to say. I love San Diego. I’ve been there once and it’s like, oh man, this place is awesome. Carl (02:10): Oh, well think of this. Before that I lived for 15 years in Montreal, right? In Montreal, there’s like six weeks of summer and it rains most of the time. So can you compare that to San Diego? I mean, somebody at my old bank asked, “Well, when your wife got an offer to teach here, how long did it take you to decide that? About three nanoseconds?” Debbi (02:38): Seriously. No kidding. That is like, whoa. That’s where I’d go if I could. Yeah. Great place. Well, I’m just glad you’re with us today. Carl Vanderau And I think I got that right. Even the second time. Carl (02:54): Yeah. Debbi (02:55): All right. So awesome. So how are things in San Diego today? Carl (03:02): It’s overcast. Debbi (03:04): Overcast. Carl (03:04): Yeah. It’s getting down into the 60s. Debbi (03:08): Well, good grief. That’s just freezing. Carl (03:10): That’s tough. I may have to put on a sweater. Debbi (03:14): Oh my word. Well, stay warm. I urge you to stay warm. Keep that sweater on. We don’t want you to catch your death or anything. Let’s see. I see that you were in banking and you specialized in anti-money laundering. Carl (03:35): Well, that’s what’s on the back of the book. Debbi (03:38): That’s what’s on the back of the book. Carl (03:41): I didn’t really specialize so much yet in banking. I took some courses on money laundering and I was involved with some people that tried to do some money laundering with me. And then I did a lot of international trade and I think it’s something like 7% of international trade is actually money laundering. Debbi (04:04): I can believe it. There’s a lot of that going on. Carl (04:08): Yeah. Debbi (04:09): Yeah. Was there a reason in particular that you decided to start writing crime fiction? Carl (04:16): Well, write what you know. Debbi (04:21): I followed the same kind of advice. Yeah. Carl (04:25): No, for some reason I thought that would be the easiest way to get published, but then I found that I tend to write about dysfunctional families and there’s nothing that makes a family more dysfunctional than crime and the possibility of wealth. So that’s what I found. I think it amplifies all the conflicts that are already there in these characters. Debbi (04:57): That’s interesting. I know what you mean about focusing on dysfunctional families. I have a tendency to do that myself. Sometimes I wonder if the concept of family can extend to things like workplaces or communities. Carl (05:17): Well, that’s an interesting question because quite often I worked at banks and one bank in particularly and they call it a family. We’re all a family here. We treat each other like a family. Some companies do that, but when the numbers go bad, that kind of disappears. When they have a down year, you may be family, but you got to go. Debbi (05:42): That’s right. Profits get thicker than blood, something like that. Carl (05:50): Yeah. Debbi (05:50): There’s no blood there to thicken. It’s all about money. Yeah, it is unfortunate when things like that happen. So how would you describe your writing style then? Do you feel it’s very realistic or psychological suspense? Carl (06:10): I think it’s more psychological suspense. I’m most interested in the characters, but I love a good plot, so the two really have to go together and they’re categorized as thrillers, so it has to start off strong. It’s interesting in this book, Saving Myles, which was the last book out, it’s about a family who has a very difficult son. So they sent him to a residential treatment center against his will, and ...

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