Scripture: 2 Nephi 28:30

“For behold, thus saith the Lord God: I will give unto the children of men line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little and there a little…”

What does “line upon line” actually look like in real life?

Kevin and Justin begin with Nephi’s warning about deception and false teachings in the last days, but one verse sends the conversation somewhere much more personal.

They wrestle with the difference between information, knowledge, and wisdom. They talk about why God may intentionally teach us gradually, why the same scripture can mean something different during different seasons of life, and why “receiving” God’s counsel may require much more than simply hearing it.

Along the way, they explore parenting, construction, football, failure, career changes, patriarchal blessings, faith, doubt, and the humility required to admit: I don’t know yet.

One idea keeps resurfacing:

Maybe the goal isn’t to finally have all the answers.

Maybe the goal is to remain teachable enough to keep receiving more.

One verse. Two dudes. A conversation.

Two Dudes Pondering the Universe, One Verse at a Time.

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The Ponderverse
Two dudes pondering the universe, one verse at a time.

The Ponderverse is hosted by Kevin Clayson and Justin Wright. This podcast is independently produced and is not an official publication of or affiliated with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.